Ultracanes

Category: Daily Living

Post 1 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Monday, 03-Dec-2007 3:59:39

Hellow,

I was just wondering what everyone thinks of the ultracane. I have had one for nearly a year and a half and haven't been shown how to use it. My mobility teacher here at college said she could show me how to use it, but if I do start using it, I should still carry a normal cane with me incase that one breaks. What do you all think of the ultracane, if you have seen or heard about them.

Post 2 by Thom3of5 (Do the Doo.) on Monday, 03-Dec-2007 7:18:38

I haven't heard of it before. What makes it different?

Post 3 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2007 11:21:57

The ultracane is a cane that vibrates, I think when your coming up to something or when there is something overhead.

Post 4 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2007 13:36:09

Ooh! I've never heard of this either. Is it like the Lazer Cane? Does anyone have those and what are they like?

Post 5 by Dave_H (the boringest guy you'll ever know) on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2007 14:16:54

If you still need a conventional cane, don't bother with this Ultra thing. Use the conventional, your training, and your senses.

Post 6 by tyger_lillee84 (I can't call it a day til I enter the zone BBS) on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2007 14:16:58

I've never heard of the ultracane, but I don't think i'd get one. Is it expensive? Canes are going to get banged up, and I don't think i'd spend lots of money on one to have to buy another one in a year or two. It does sound cool though

Post 7 by Eleni21 (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Tuesday, 04-Dec-2007 14:42:01

Wow. Buying a new cane every year? Yours must really take a beating! lol

Post 8 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Wednesday, 05-Dec-2007 15:18:12

The ultracane is really expensive and I think someone had to apply for funding to get me one, then of course you've got to prove or fill in some form to say you don't have to pay vat on top of that. I will be starting working with mine on Monday. I'll keep posting on here.

Post 9 by motifated (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Saturday, 08-Dec-2007 6:15:33

Well, I look forward to seeing your posts on this, Harmony. Personally, I agree with Dave, in that, the best mobility aid is between your ears. In other words, it comes down to what we do and how we process the information delivered to our brains via sight, hearing, smell, and other senses. This comes from someone who is gadjet happy, but doesn't want to relinquish too much control over such an important skill as mobility to electronics.

Lou

Post 10 by Dave_H (the boringest guy you'll ever know) on Saturday, 08-Dec-2007 14:57:21

When I was taking O&M in high school, there were a bunch of these devices, Sonic Guide, Mowatt Sensor, Laser Cane, to name a few. What has become of these things? My instructors at the time never recommended any of these devices. I once talked to someone about the Sonic Guide; he found it more distracting than helpful.

Post 11 by jamesk (This site is so "educational") on Saturday, 08-Dec-2007 16:00:11

can't you just listen for the echo a regular cane makes to know if something's in front of you. or just let the cane hit it like normal and walk around it or whatever.
I've never used the ultracane, but it sounds like more of a nuisance and more prone to break downs than I'd like.
like everyone else said, get good training, use your brains, and stick with the tried and true.

Post 12 by motifated (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Sunday, 09-Dec-2007 8:04:57

In all fairness, the various electronic travel aids have potential. I've played with a few of them, and the manufacturers generally say not to use the devices without a cane. Personally, I have enough stuff to carry without another device. With the sonar-based devices, you do get more warning about obstacles coming up, which is helpful. Again, I wonder if its worth the training, cost, and hassle of more junk to carry around. I'm not saying it is or isn't as that is question we must all answer for ourselves.


Lou

Post 13 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Sunday, 09-Dec-2007 15:49:41

My friend dropped her ultracane the other week and still hasn't had it fixed.

Post 14 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Sunday, 09-Dec-2007 16:14:23

So, it stops functioning as it's supposed to when it's dropped? I certainly wouldn't use it.

Post 15 by tyger_lillee84 (I can't call it a day til I enter the zone BBS) on Sunday, 09-Dec-2007 22:24:36

Hey it's me again, I've been reading this board, and I still haven't been convinced that theese ultracanes are worth it. I'd never ever spend money on one. And I juzst wanted to clarify, I exagerated when I said I buy a cane every year lol.

Post 16 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Monday, 10-Dec-2007 10:37:49

I was practicing with one today and I wouldn't really use it around college, because it picks up all the walls and things if I am in a corridor. I would probably use it if I was going out somewhere, though, which I'm doin with it omorrow in my mobility lesson.

Post 17 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Monday, 10-Dec-2007 11:35:11

Can't you just order another one? I hope the ultra-cane is not permanent. that would drive me bonkers.

Post 18 by Dubstep1984 (I just keep on posting!) on Wednesday, 23-Jan-2008 23:46:46

oh wow. it seems as if alot of mobility devices r more distracting than helpful. i mean, come on, if u hit something and your regular cane breaks, just get another one. these ultra canes sound like more trouble than they r worth.

Post 19 by Shadow_Cat (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Thursday, 24-Jan-2008 6:29:29

I hadnt heard of the ultra cane before reading this, but I've done some reading about it now. I really wouldn't bother with it. It sounds like way more hassle than it's worth. What good is it if it breaks this easily, and if you have to carry a regular cane anyway? I simply use my echo perception to know when I'm coming to an obstacle, and my cane is long enough that it gives me enough reaction time. I think there's a reason none of the electronic mobility aids have caught on over the years, and I've rarely seen an O&M instructor recommend one.

Post 20 by Chris N (I just keep on posting!) on Thursday, 24-Jan-2008 10:50:36

I've seen the Mowatt Sensor, and thought it was kind of interesting. I could see its usefulness when finding doorways in environments where that isn't easily done through sound, or tracking people in lines if you could get the range low enough.

Post 21 by Glenja (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Thursday, 24-Jan-2008 18:29:08

I got to try out a mowat sensor, gosh, it must have been around 20 years ago now. I liked it, but it was very expensive. I was told at the time it was supposed to be used mainly in familiar environments, where you would use it to make sure nothing out of the ordinary was in your way. For example, if you worked in a building that you were used to, you used it to avoid people, trash cans, etc…things that weren’t necessarily in the same place all the time. One major drawback besides the price was that it couldn’t sense a dropoff. You were just out of luck if you forgot there was a stepdown or set of stairs around. I sure hope these newer gadgets have made some improvements in that area.

Post 22 by motifated (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Saturday, 26-Jan-2008 18:24:37

Problem with that is you'd have to hav a dedicated sensor to point at the ground, and I'm thinking that how much warning the device provided would depend on the reflexes of the end user. For me, as I've gotten older, my canes have gotten longer for just that reason.

Lou

Post 23 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Thursday, 31-Jan-2008 11:25:34

It's also realy annoying when you take it up or down stairs, because the position of the sensor changes, so it starts vibrating all the time.

Post 24 by motifated (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Thursday, 31-Jan-2008 15:41:30

A couple days ago, someone posted a really detailed review of the Ultracane on blindcooltech.com. I started reading it, but never finished it yet.

Post 25 by Dubstep1984 (I just keep on posting!) on Saturday, 23-Feb-2008 1:40:28

drop offs sucks. a friend was guiding me. my left foot slipped off of a foot deep curb and i sprained m ankle.

Post 26 by battle star queen (I just keep on posting!) on Saturday, 26-Apr-2008 11:08:14

i think i'll stick with a reggular cane.

Post 27 by jamesk (This site is so "educational") on Saturday, 26-Apr-2008 11:12:35

IMO, what can this do for anyone that a regular cane used properly can't do cheaper and better?

Post 28 by purple penguin (Don't you hate it when someone answers their own questions? I do.) on Saturday, 26-Apr-2008 16:24:46

My regular cane takes a beatting especially the tip.

Post 29 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Sunday, 27-Apr-2008 2:13:26

My cane tip has a hole in it.

Post 30 by purple penguin (Don't you hate it when someone answers their own questions? I do.) on Sunday, 27-Apr-2008 11:12:03

I had one like that once. The hard part is replacing them. Somehow you have to get the old tip off and replace it with the new one.

Post 31 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Friday, 02-May-2008 5:06:13

I have the hook one, so I have to try and hold the elastic after taking the old one off and until I put the new tip on.

Post 32 by rdfreak (THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE-BLUE KANGA-KICKIN AUSIE) on Saturday, 03-May-2008 0:53:30

I heard this reviewed on blindcooltech. it sounds interesting that's for sure. I may have considered trying one if I didn't have a guide dog. course, one still needs to use a cane occasionally, but one would need to use the ultra cane on a regular basis I would think.

Post 33 by changedheart421 (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Saturday, 03-May-2008 15:34:57

will have to read about this more.

Post 34 by motifated (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Saturday, 03-May-2008 17:58:22

To the poster with the dog guide, I probably wouldn't invest in this cane, as I'm betting its somewhat expensive to use as a back-up for your dog guide.
Lou

Post 35 by cuddle_kitten84 (I just keep on posting!) on Saturday, 03-May-2008 19:44:36

Hi there, i haven't brought one as i know a friend who had one and in the first week, it went faulty and the battery ran out. plus if it vibrates even going downstairs, that would anoy the heck out of me.

Post 36 by lights_rage (I just keep on posting!) on Sunday, 04-May-2008 1:00:48

its not worth my 787 bucks, now if i could find something that could help me avoid smacking my head on side mirors, yeah that would be nice, i am 4'11 and could use somethin to help me avoid stuff over head and such, something that isn't 800 bucks

Post 37 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Friday, 09-May-2008 6:31:00

I don't use my ultracane now. I've been shown how to use it, but there's no point seeing as I'm at college or I know what's normally on the routes I use anyway and it's just annoying when I know perfectly well where the wall or the door or the stairs or whatever are, thank you very much, cane.

Post 38 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Sunday, 11-May-2008 5:13:54

See? worthless, IMO.

Post 39 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Wednesday, 14-May-2008 16:09:07

Hahahaha! *laughs*

Post 40 by shea (number one pulse checking chicky) on Thursday, 15-May-2008 8:02:14

wow, didn't you say you had this baught for you, using grants or whatever? I think that is so crazy. you should look into the item before you buy it and see if it is going to be useful or not to you. why waist the states money? People that really need that money could and should be using it, instead of blind people or any one for that matter, . that want to try out new gadgets, that we really don't need. If it's something you really need, fine. but obviously it's not. you just said you won't be using it. What a waist of eight hundred dollars.
crazy!

Post 41 by Jess227 on Thursday, 13-Nov-2008 16:48:53

Oh my, I wouldn't trust these with my life. I had to do a white cane day folder for Lions. And I used the Laser cane as my electric cane of choice for the report. Um, let me tell you something: I'd rather spend $80 bucks on a folding canes that'll last me 2 to 4 years then purchase a $2,000 dollar cane that'll break and not be under warrenty. You break it, and then you have to go back to a actual cane - and the electric cane you're use to using I wonder if you'll lose your mobility training when going back to a regular cane? Doesn't the mobility training teach you how to use your ears and other senses while traveling?

Just my opinion really.

But, if you feel more comfortable and can tolerate the baggage that comes with owning a electric cane then go for it.

Post 42 by ghost (Generic Zoner) on Friday, 14-Nov-2008 1:34:05

Nope used one and definitely prefer my dog. Doesn't break down all the time.

Post 43 by Harmony (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Sunday, 16-Nov-2008 3:47:04

I'm thinking of getting rid of mine anyway, because I've only used the stupid thing like once and there's no point having it if I'm never going to use it. Anyone got any ideas what to do with it?